I bought these as a softshell replacement when I had lost a pair of North Face fleece gloves. These seemed to meet the bill. I will say that they weren't as warm in general conditions as the plain fleece North Face (though a bit thicker than the North Face fleece ones!), but did better with wind and rain. In fact, they were still able to insulate my hands when completely soaked in the rain. The Smart Touch finger is very useful when you don't want to take your gloves off in the cold...it works really well with my iPhone.